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Published Nov. 19, 2008

The California Supreme Court has agreed to hear all three cases challenging Proposition 8. From my reading of the situation, it doesn't even appear that they've consolidated the cases (although that may be something that happens later on - I'm not sure.) If not, each case would be heard individually, giving three shots to get rid of this thing. 

Even if they do consolidate the cases into one, their viewpoint on the matter (and a good indicator of how they'll rule on these cases) seems to have already been given in their original ruling on In re Marriage Cases, the court case that started the whole business in the first place. 

They said (and this is a direct, word for word quote from the ruling itself) that said the right to marry is among a set of basic human rights "so integral to an individual's liberty and personal autonomy that they may not be eliminated or abrogated by the legislature or by the electorate through the statutory initiative process."

This will be interesting to watch unfold. :-D



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"My own view? Either the state must recognize all equivalent relationships that people form for the purpose of state granted benefits and rights, or they need to get out of the business of recognizing them altogether."

Then companies would need to consider couples "living in sin" (to borrow the term I've heard all my life) for benefits as well as gay/lesbian couples. That would be quite an expensive problem.

“Will letting them marry shut them the H_LL up?” - unc4evr

Pretty much. If there wasn’t any discrimination they wouldn’t have anything to complain about.

Will letting them marry shut them the H_LL up?

How about this: If you are heterosexual and married, and one of your kids turns out to be gay, you surrender your right to be married.

Man, that would mess up sooo many political marriages...

Even famed anti-gray Christian crusader Rev. Ted Haggard dropped out of another pastor's 'gay cure therapy' after less than a month.

Maybe they needed a bigger stick...

Who cares? Let them be married and be miserable like everyone else! Besides, if you are against gays getting married, don't marry one...

lol @ smorgas... your friend was right.

A buddy in high school use to say he had no problem with gays. He often would say, "Hey! When I see two guys holding hands, walking together, hugging or kissing, I have just one thought: That's TWO more girls available for ME!"

I concur with many other posts I've seen here. Whether to link yourself to another through the covenant of marriage is a personal choice between the participants; the state should not be involved. It pains me to see some who feel they must oppose something that does no harm to them or their marriages, but that potentially might bring happiness to another couple - a couple whose feelings are just as deep, just as meaningful...and just as worthwhile as anyone else's.

I agree, Sheba. My pastor won't marry a couple without counseling them first and determining to the best of his ability that they are both Christians, as the Bible says "do not be unequally yoked". He says that he feels strongly that he would be doing a disservice to marriage as God intended it to be. That's his perogative. However, when it comes to a civil union, that's something different.

I just have to allow people to live how they wish to live and live my life the way I feel most comfortable

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