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conservative icon jesse helms dead at 86
Published Jul. 4, 2008I USED TO TELL MY FATHER HE STOOD A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT OF JESSE HELMS, HE WAS MY DADS FRIEND ALTHOUGH I BUTTED HEADS WITH MY DAD OVER POLITICS I LOVED JESSE HELMS HE BELIEVED IN WHAT HE STOOD FOR. NOW THEY ARE BOTH GONE AND THE WORLD IS A LITTLE EMPTIER
AND YOU KNOW YOU GOTTA STAND FOR SOMETHING OR YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING
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July 4, 2008 4:14 p.m.
Go read the original bill. It is far different in tone and intent than what has fallen out of it today.
GOLO member since July 3, 2007
July 4, 2008 1:29 p.m.
So what you are, in effect, saying is that Kennedy reluctantly did the right thing? LOL
GOLO member since June 10, 2008
July 4, 2008 1:12 p.m.
GOLO member since July 3, 2007
July 4, 2008 1:10 p.m.
Hard to say. With regard to segregation, he didn't really get involved in the demagoguery and ugliness that characterized the positions of many of his contemporaries, but he supported it nonetheless.
So, if we're to grant some degrees of evil, he was probably less evil than Helms, but evil in some ways nonetheless.
GOLO member since June 10, 2008
July 4, 2008 12:51 p.m.
A divisive (and false) assumption, at least where I am concerned. Jesse's admirable qualities would include his consistency and his honesty surrounding his opinions and positions on the issues of the day. To his credit, he did change his mind over time (at least publicly) on some issues where his previously had demonstrated bigotry and intolerance.
As a moderate, I seldom agreed with him, but that doesn't prevent me from recognizing that he would always stand up for what *he* believed in.
GOLO member since March 18, 2008
July 4, 2008 12:48 p.m.
So was Sam Ervin also evil?
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
July 4, 2008 12:38 p.m.
I was speaking specifically to his vociferous support of segregation and his frequent on-air (back before it became unpopular, and therefore a political liability) diatribes extolling white supremacy.
If you can honestly defend those, then there's no hope for you.
GOLO member since June 10, 2008
July 4, 2008 12:25 p.m.
GOLO member since August 22, 2007
July 4, 2008 12:25 p.m.
Is that kinda like "I support our troops, but I do not support the war?" Or "I voted yes before I voted no."
GOLO member since July 3, 2007
July 4, 2008 12:23 p.m.
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